I am a survivor of extremely severe ritualistic childhood abuse and sadistic systematic torture. This blog has helped me get my voice back and documents the journey I'm on to heal from the trauma and damage caused by that appalling abuse. Now is the time for me to tell of MY experience by speaking the truth about MY life. I will be silenced no more! On this blog I share MY life, MY healing journey; helpful quotes/stuff I come across and MY thoughts along the way. The more I speak out the more liberated I am from the shame and trauma of the abuse. My broken wings are gradually being repaired. Without God in my life I wouldn't still be here. But somehow, I keep on staying alive, surviving and rarely, occasionally, living a little!

Saturday, 11 June 2011


I’ve ranted and written many times on the issue of forgiveness. Forgiveness was so rammed down my throat over the years by my abusers as well as by many who never knew my abusers but who, the moment I say I’d been abused respond “have you forgiven your abusers? You must forgive them.” When I’ve query that I’ve been labelled as rebellious and had it said to me “no one can help you unless you forgive”. Then “well, you need to forgive yourself then.” ???????? The abuse was done to me, I do not need to forgive myself for anything and do not buy into that at all.

I’ve written several times exploring the issue of forgiveness in relation to abuse, non repentant abusers and healing from the effects of abuse.  I have really wrestled with this issue wanting to come to a workable solution and way through the maze presented when the people who abused me do not even acknowledge anything was wrong unless I accept that I am the one at fault. 

It is very hard to forgive when there is no acknowledgement of wrong or of damage having been caused. I have over the last few months come to an understanding about forgiveness which is different to the concept that was presented to me by churches and by many Christians. The pseudo forgiveness concept that I was taught and had rammed down me in those contexts did not did into account or address the issues faced by abuse survivors who have to deal with their abusers denying anything ever happened. Real forgiveness is not possible in those situations. 

With no acknowledgement of what happened, never mind an apology request for forgiveness there is very little that can be done. The survivor has to work through the issues that paradigm presents as well as deal with the effects of the abuse. 

Real forgiveness is not possible when your abusers don’t even recognise or admit anything was wrong, or if anything was wrong the fault was with me not them. Where people do not recognise any wrong forgiveness is not possible. Where people do not recognise or acknowledge the damage done to you forgiveness is not possible. Where people do not seek forgiveness, it is not possible. Forgiveness is not always possible. 

Forgiveness for me where I’m at, at the moment, is about letting go of the anger, rage, desire for revenge and so on that I have about what they did and getting my life back in some way. I believe you can forgive things done to you. But I also believe there are many things which are unforgivable, they are so awful and so horrific. As for forgiving a person I believe only God can truly do that.

As I’ve discussed this issue with other survivors it’s become clear that it is very rare for abusers to admit abuse ever happened, and even rarer for abusers to apologise or request forgiveness. 

Networking with abusers and realising I’m not alone in my experiences has helped put a dent into my isolation and helped me process my thoughts and beliefs about forgiveness.

 While forgiveness is an issue that all survivors have to face there are unique issues that an abuse survivor who is a Christian has to face. The biggest of all - “have you forgiven?” - “you must forgive your abusers” - “you must forgive yourself”. These all come from the mouths of Christians the moment you take the risk and disclose you are an abuse survivor. 

Such statements cause enormous pain and confusion to all survivors who have to cope with hearing them. No-one tells you HOW to forgive, just that you must and you are at fault if you won’t, can’t or haven’t. Such banal and simplistic statements pile huge weight of expectation. Sometimes the statements are made to silence you because there is no further discussion of the subject beyond those bland words. 

Such statements are trite in the extreme and expose how many Christians and churches (a) are ignorant of the dynamics of abuse and the damage it does to survivors (b) are brainwashed into the forgiveness paradigm without actually really thinking it through (c) use the forgiveness issue to judge and control others in the guise of religious advice (d) use the forgiveness word to shut you up.

It has caused me no end of hurt, pain and confusion. As a result I see forgiveness as an immensely personal thing. It has nothing to do with another human being whether you’ve forgiven someone or not.

I had come to the conclusion that when it comes to non-repentant abusers who deny anything ever happened forgiveness is not even a relevant topic for survivors.

At that point I came across a very helpful article entitled “On Apologies and Forgiveness”. It is written by Kelly Clark, A Child Sex Abuse Attorney based in Portland, Oregon, USA. It was really helpful to read this topic being explored from the angle of an experienced Child Sex Abuse lawyer.

In the end I decided it was so good that I would share it here. Below are short excerpts from the article.
“I get asked quite often by people what is the role of apology and forgiveness in the work that I do. Well, the short answer is: not much. As a child sex abuse attorney having represented over 300 men, women and children who suffered child sexual abuse, I can count on one hand the number of times that I have witnessed a genuine apology and a request for forgiveness. I just haven’t seen it, with but a few exceptions.

I have read and thought a lot about apologies and forgiveness.  So, in this and forthcoming blogs,I plan to reflect with you on the nature of apology and forgiveness.

We have all seen the pseudo-apology:  "I’m sorry this happened to you."  "I regret that you feel something I did– or did not do–caused you pain."  "We regret your experience."  These are not apologies and requests for forgiveness. 

Not only the Catholic Church, but also the Boy Scouts, the Mormon Church, the Seventh Day Adventist Church, governments and schools: I have seen all of them give short shrift to the apology and request for forgiveness that is so crucial to healing for survivors of child abuse.

A true apology and request for forgiveness starts with an unconditional acknowledgment– yes, even confession– of wrongdoing.  "I was, we were,  wrong. Our actions were selfish and wrong. There is no excuse. We are deeply sorry and offer our sincere and unconditional apology. We humbly ask your forgiveness." Anything less has some other purpose, and is not an apology.

Those who have harmed children, and those in whose names others have harmed children – churches, Scouts, youth organizations– have such an opportunity to foster healing for survivors of abuse.  It is a shame – literally, a shame – that they do not more often practice the grace of genuine apology.”

The entire article can be read at


Jon Harris said...

Please believe that I'm exploring this with you, not trying to give advice.

It is hard..maybe harder than humans can normally bear to give grace to an unrepentant sinner.

1) God doesn't forgive those who don't accept forgivness.

2) God doesn't forgive those who don't forgive others.

3) There need be no excusing their behavior. There is no excuse for a truly repenting person, they know they are to blame.

4) Despite your forgivness or lack thereof, God will judge them as he will based on their heart.

The real dilemma seems to be that we humans don't trust God to smite the evil doers and protect the innocent on Earth. We don't want to forgive, because then we let the sinner "get away with it".

What do you think?

Eve said...

Wow! This is a really hard post.

Princess Fi said...

yes Eve, it was very hard and very painful to write!!

Princess Fi said...

Jon, the issue of forgiveness is a very complex one

one of the worst things said to my abusers and by many Christians is you must forgive because God will not forgive you otherwise.

yes the bible does say that but real biblical forgiveness is always conditional of repentance on behalf of the wrongdoer and forgiveness being asked of the person they wronged.

Outside of these parameters you have only pseudo forgiveness.

Where is no repentance, acknowledgement of wrong or request for forgiveness then real true biblical forgiveness is not possible.

When dealing with child abusers it's very unusual for abusers to admit they did anything wrong.

In my case it has been the case for 45 years that my abusers admit no guilt, do not admit anything even happened and have not sought my forgiveness, in fact everything has been the opposite

So forgiveness as set out by the bible is not possible nor even relevant.

It is a terrible weight to put on someone who has been horrifically abused that they must forgive because otherwise God will not forgive them.

Princess Fi said...

Jon - you raise the point of "we humans don't trust God to smite the evil doers and protect the innocent on Earth"

As a child abuse survivor you have the problem of an innocent child, not seemingly protected by God.

God did not and does not smite the evildoers, not does He protect the innocent on earth.

So the question comes "where was God when I was being abused?" I now know the answer to that question. And that is for another time or place.

My abusers, the evil doers, admit no fault, have escaped justice and not been brought to account and continue to thrive in their sin.

I in contrast, the innocent victim in all this have lived from hand to mouth from early childhood and struggle with so many physical, emotional and mental disabilities because of the abuse. I have had a non-life because of what my abusers did, just a mere existence and so it continues.

Forgiveness is never about "the sinner getting away with it".

There is a natural need for justice, for the truth to be known, to see your abusers brought to justice and made to account for their actions.

The real dilemma is trusting God to take care of that in eternity, especially when your experience in this life has been the total opposite.

Forgiveness for an abuse survivor has so many complex side issues. There is nothing simplistic about it.

I'm just very glad I have a relationship with God which engages with these deep issues and goes way beyond legalism and simplistic platitudes!!